12:31 p.m. on August 1, 2008 (EDT)
qwerk
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Joined: Aug 1, 2008
Posts: 1
Best soft shell pants and jacket
Hello,
This is my first post and I recently join this group. I was looking through all of the selections for gears and was just over whelmed with the choice and wanted to get the best item for myself. I am not interested in if the gear matching chances it prolly will since the best of one will be the best in the other field. I don't actually know.
I would like something with the following:
windproof
waterproof
Breathability
Warm when needed and cool when needed
streachy
lightweight
durable
I got this list by looking at at few of the brands that were up.
I don't know what to look for. Can someone please help me out. I plan to use these year round. For snowboarding, mountain biking, hiking. Any and all tips and suggestions would be appreciated. If you can recommend a specific pair that would be great.
Also I am a male in decent physical condition. I am 5'7" and weight 180lbs. I don't think this info matters but I would like to get the gear that is best for me.
Thanks for your time and effort, it is really appreciated.
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1:48 p.m. on August 1, 2008 (EDT)
Bill S
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Re: Best soft shell pants and jacket
Soft shells are wind resistant and water resistant, not windproof and waterproof. Yes, Windstopper and Windbloc (and the imitations thereof) are windproof, but they aren't very breathable, and thus tend to be pretty hot when exercising. Neither is waterproof, though they are pretty water resistant.
I have found that Schoeller fabrics and the copies of Schoeller are excellent as soft shells. They are pretty wind resistant and water resistant, quite breathable, stretchy, lightweight, and durable.
"warm when needed and cool when needed"? That depends a lot on you. No fabric is all things to all people, which is what your list calls for. That's why all the softshell manufacturers have multiple versions of jackets and of pants. You have to decide the temperature range you will be in, and supplement the soft shell with fleece and long johns underneath plus, in rain and snow, a waterproof/breathable shell (what the industry in its hype calls "hardshell").
Two brands of Schoeller that I have found work reasonably well are Cloudveil and GoLite. Cloudveil is the better quality, but it is pricey (worth it in my opinion). I have used Schoeller in Antarctica and for backcountry skiing and ice climbing, supplemented, of course, by fleece, long johns, and outer wpb shells.
Again, no single garment will do everything you ask for. You should think in terms of layering, adjusting your layers to the conditions (this means adjusting layers during the day, as well). Frankly, the whole business of "hard shell, soft shell, etc" is mostly advertising hype, coupled with "the latest colors".
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